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Chris428
2 years ago

The Net migration has been around 200,000 plus for years. So there are more to us than to emigrate. Around 900,000 leave our country and about 1.1 million come.

In the pure migrants the numbers are much, much lower (included above): only about 180,000 real emigrants exist annually, of which 129,000 come back. The annual “loss”, which is permanently no longer coming back, are therefore quite exactly 50,000 people. There is only an 8% emigration of highly qualified: 76% of emigrants have a university degree and 68% for returnees.
All industrial nations are therefore emigration countries, Germany is not alone. But as mentioned above, more people are coming to the country as a whole.

stufix2000
2 years ago

No, it contradicts the idea that every person has the freedom to live where he wants and how he wants.

I would like to see the money/capital Emigration is difficult.

Every German should always pay taxes in Germany or donate citizenship if he can live permanently in other countries.

The U.S. handles this.

Tinkerbell263
2 years ago
Reply to  stufix2000

What do people do with double citizenship?

stufix2000
2 years ago
Reply to  Tinkerbell263

In two countries, they give an income tax return and pay what is due in both countries.

Of course, this only works if there are double taxation agreements between the countries.

candycake22
2 years ago
Reply to  stufix2000

What does dual citizenship have to do with it? Just because I don’t live in Germany doesn’t mean I should lose citizenship. And why tax there? I don’t like Germany if I live somewhere else, earn my money there and also tax it there?
foreigners living in Germany do not automatically get German citizenship because they live there and pay taxes

stufix2000
2 years ago
Reply to  candycake22

What does dual citizenship have to do with it?

Nothing, but many allegedly live non-compliance Germany to save taxes. Those who live abroad only pay taxes there, but also declares this in Germany.

Just because I don’t live in Germany doesn’t mean I should lose citizenship.

No, no one should lose something. But what does it say that citizenship comes with commitment?

And why tax there? I don’t like Germany if I live somewhere else, earn my money there and also tax it there?

It was an idea, a proposal. As I said, the Americans do it too.

foreigners living in Germany do not automatically receive German citizenship,

only because they live there and pay taxes

Right, it’s more than paying taxes.

Frank6188
2 years ago

What many rejectors do not see here is, of course, the aspect that some of the emigrants have enjoyed a good education like study here at the expense of society. for example doctors. From kita to school to university, the general public has financed the large part of the training, hoping to get something back. In the form that empty spaces are occupied and taxes come back in. Instead, states like the United States can benefit from it without contributing anything themselves. And Germany, although largely in vain, tries to exploit important skilled workers to other countries. Instead of prohibiting the emigration, it is necessary to prevent the application of it. In addition, it would be more important to create better conditions here, which craftsmen and students want to remain. Germany is increasingly becoming a system where well-trained people do not see a perspective and created strangers as cheap people by delivering 200 packages for 80 euros on the day.

stufix2000
2 years ago
Reply to  Frank6188

Most well-trained people emigrate to Switzerland and most of them come with new experiences in their baggage, also back or hike.

Frank6188
2 years ago
Reply to  stufix2000

Yes, this also applies to Switzerland and applies to GB. I didn’t want to write a novel now, but the basic tenor of my statement is recognizable. I therefore do not share the second part of your inclusion, which may be true of chefs.

Frank6188
2 years ago

One is not fleing from war and bombs, but because the economic situation here is better. I know enough that this was precisely the reason why: social benefits, training opportunities, promotion opportunities. The others make a bar or nail studio on Mallorca because they believe to live there is like holiday. From there, many failed come back. But this is not the case, we spoke of studyrs. I plan to pack the suitcases in the direction of the south-east even in a larger group, all craftsmen. There are purely economic reasons and not the weather.

stufix2000
2 years ago

Just one flee from war and bombs and the other live in Spain because the weather is better there. Mallorca 17. federal state?

All digital nomads live precisely because of the weather in the south or in Asia or elsewhere.

Frank6188
2 years ago

Of course, all the Syrians are here to finally ski and Germans wander out because elsewhere the sun is more often.

stufix2000
2 years ago

My experience in this is another.

Frank6188
2 years ago

Nonsense, the framework conditions are economic, freedom is the opportunity to choose better. Hardly an immigrants to Germany and immigrants from Germany like to leave the usual environment, familiar language, eating habits, friends and family back to shed freedom. The most common reason is simply an economically better perspective abroad.

stufix2000
2 years ago

The framework is freedom! If he likes, he’ll go. This has little to do with framework conditions in Germany.

Frank6188
2 years ago

I have, of course, also informed myself and the figures of these 7 years old statistics are declining from other sources. By the way, where is the benefit when a young doctor travels to the UK and works there when he returns home-wicked as a pensioner. As I said, it would be better to create better conditions here in terms of training and staying.

stufix2000
2 years ago

The study does not provide any indication that high-skilled workers are permanently ‘discharged’ abroad to a large extent. Germany. living. Population. are..be.be.be.be.be.be.be.be.be.be.be.be.be.be.be.be.e.for.the.return:.at.everything.80.percent.tradet.es.sich.um.highly qualified.or.person.in.training;.in the non-mobile. This is the comparative population. Share, only. close. 30 per cent.. From the highly qualified. emigrants.going.to the same.only a.minderness.of this.,.that.they.going.im. Stay abroad.will.

Source

skyrim2011
2 years ago

But you should make it harder. In many countries it is necessary to prove at least one job or sufficient financial resources to deny its own living. This should be introduced here, too, then people who only want to live at our expense do not always come here.

DerCaveman
2 years ago
Reply to  skyrim2011

In many countries it is necessary to prove at least one job or sufficient financial resources to deny its own living. That’s what you should introduce here…

It doesn’t need to be done because it’s been so long. OnenthG § 5:

(1) The grant of a residence permit generally requires that:

1. the livelihood is secured…

SVara7
2 years ago

Why would you make it even more difficult? In Germany, this is even hard to make a new pass since corona or even to renew the ID. And also we live in a country where everyone can decide voluntarily where to live and this is also good

OpiPaschulke
2 years ago

Everyone should be free to choose where to live.

BaarrNeu
2 years ago

No one is allowed to leave their home area uninvited and welcome.

Contrary to this, the delegates are obliged to create conditions that no one is forced to leave this area!

Advanced human consciousness makes this possible.

LukaUndShiba
2 years ago
Reply to  BaarrNeu

because I am a free person, it is up to me.

BaarrNeu
2 years ago
Reply to  LukaUndShiba

And you already know that there is no right to stupidity and there is also an expanded reality?

juergen63225
2 years ago
Reply to  BaarrNeu

What do you mean “unloaded”?

Of course, no other country is obliged to accept someone. But the question was not whether and which country would accept a German on what conditions, but whether someone should leave.

BaarrNeu
2 years ago
Reply to  juergen63225

Remember the text. There’s nothing to add.

Cokedose
2 years ago

Why?

Depending on the destination, there are more than enough hurdles. It is not necessary to make it unnecessarily difficult for everyone to march on the other side into our country for pleasure and pleasure and without proof of identity.

The only reason I remain in this underlying country is the age and the lack of capital.

smily564
2 years ago

But there was this part of DE, no one came out.

BaarrNeu
2 years ago
Reply to  smily564

It’s your statement. And statements are statements. They’re right or wrong. And in terms of reality, your statement is not even correct in the approach. spices

Emotional, I can carry out your statement 100%. hahahahaah

HugoHustensaft
2 years ago

Calls for freedom – and this also includes the freedom to leave the country. We Germans know how to do it if it is not allowed, I say only GDR.

juergen63225
2 years ago

Freedom is a fundamental right. This would have to be serious reasons to intervene in this right.

McPresley
2 years ago

It should even be greatly facilitated. In Germany you can simply slick and settle, you don’t even need papers. For us, there is no such possibility.

DerCaveman
2 years ago
Reply to  McPresley

It’s you Residence law Or does it just not fit into your worldview? There must be some reason to ignore it.

DerCaveman
2 years ago

This simply does not affect the German state.

zetra
2 years ago

With this we would fall back into regulations that you did not consider, because an emigration can have many reasons, if not life-saving.

To prevent tax evasion, this aspect should be given more attention, because the state does not harm the emigration of our 84 million inhabitants.

Udavu
2 years ago
Reply to  zetra

Then we’d be back in the GDR.

zetra
2 years ago
Reply to  Udavu

A souffleur is needed in the theatre, but here at GF it is superfluous as a crotch. And as this goes in a row, it must be said once.

zetra
2 years ago
Reply to  zetra
BigSmoke7
2 years ago

No. Who wants to go can go and who wants to come. The state has not to interfere.

isnichtmeinName
2 years ago

I think it’s time for the state to move out.

Walum
2 years ago

Why do you want to stop them?

Germany would have to become more attractive for potential immigrants without becoming more interesting for immigrants.

Since the amount of immigrants required Much is higher than the ridiculous single-fall accumulation of emigration volunteers, this is completely unrealistic.

wollyuno
2 years ago

why this should happen.who wants to do it just.better how to stay there and mecker

JustinKing440
2 years ago

No way. I’m going out next year.

DummeStudentin
2 years ago

Germany is a democracy, and not a dictatorial shithole. People who want to emigrate cannot be held up forcibly.

Ramon6134
2 years ago

No, just like that

wickedsick05
2 years ago

We should build a wall and write DDR 2.0 on it

TheAmigos
2 years ago

No.