Am I really the only one with such “plans” in the stable?
Hi,
So the title sounds a bit misleading.
But I always get strange looks when I say, for example, that I have a precise plan for mucking out.
At the moment, it's like this: space, everything from the area to the straw rack, the area around the straw rack, the area around the hay rack, the box, the grooming area. It's all their space, which is available to them 24/7.
Or when tightening the girth: When saddling, tighten both sides to the 2nd hole, before going out onto the arena, tighten both sides to the 3rd hole, then after mobilising, tighten each side one hole at a time, and before getting on, tighten one hole again on one side.
…Is it really just me?! Don't you also have habits that you always do exactly the same thing? Like, a plan that only exists in your head?! And you automatically work according to it?
I always feel so stupid because of this…
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nein alles gut ich mach das auch immer so.
Ich brauch diese pläne einfach weil da in meinem kopf ordnung sein soll
mach dir keine sorgen 🙂
Do you always get a little "angry" when someone else has already started messing things up and you have to change your habits? I don't get angry, but I do think to myself, "I would be much faster if I didn't have to think about where to go next."
ja schon aber eher so wie dus meinst also ich werd nd sauer aber es nervt micht halt schon weil ich jetzt alles wieder umplanen muss
Das mit dem Routinevorgehen ist eine ganz einfache Taktik, um nichts zu vergessen.
Aber was heißt “nach dem Mobilisieren” beim Gurten? Mal abgesehen davon, dass Du auf die Tagesverfassung des Pferdes achten solltest und immer nur 1 Loch abwechselnd rechts und links nachgurten, dass es immer symmetrisch ist und nie zu viel auf einmal gegurtet wird und immer am gehenden Pferd gurten, nicht am stehenden.
Mobilization comes from the riding style we practice. Simply put, this means that the horse "walks" around us with its forehand, almost staying in place, while its hindquarters cross in a larger circle around us.
https://m.facebook.com/OliveiraStables/videos/mobilieren-sie-ihr-4-jahre-altes-pferd-auch-t%C3%A4glichso-und-nur-so-stabilieren/759612555073648/
This one represents it, only more quietly.
I find it counterproductive to force a "cold" horse to do strenuous things.
Just lead a little and include generous turns, voltes, etc. so that the horse can warm up.
Oh yes, and of course I do pay attention to the horse, but if it is necessary I tighten the girth as much as I normally do, and if not then of course I only tighten it as much as necessary.
I've just gotten used to this plan so that I know when I should buckle up if it's still necessary.
And as for the running thing, I'll pay attention to that, I didn't know that before, thanks.
I'm seriously considering whether we should continue discussing this here. But I'll let it go; it would just waste my precious time. And yes, I mean the "OS babble," only I would call it something else.
I'm off here then, I want to do something useful today!
Na schau, das ist ein Denkfehler Deinerseits, denn der Kopf ist mitnichten auf Brusthöhe, natürlich darf sich das Pferd dorthin immer mal strecken, aber die normale Arbeitshaltung ist das eben nicht.
Und … Du vergisst bei der ganzen Sache die Vorwärtsbewegung/Dynamik bei normalem Arbeitstempo und auch durchaus noch in versammelten Gangarten.
Nun, wenn Du damit nicht das OS-Geschruppe meinst, alles fein.
Denn ECHTES “vertikal” ist eigentlich nix anderes als klassische Reitweise.
If you think purely logically, it's not possible for the horse to take the weight with its hindquarters when its head is on its chest (in English riding). Or with its nose on the ground in Western riding.
The horse has to land on its forehand. That's also what I noticed from above, or what I see from below.
I wouldn't call it rollkur either.
Well, I expected this reaction. We Vertical Riders aren't supposed to insult you, but you're supposed to insult us?
How long have you been riding?
No comment. Really. What else can you say? A backward rollkur with significantly more serious consequences. But she's just "putting it across the wrong way" – biomechanics isn't magic, it's simply the functional principle of the body. Anyone can learn it – you just have to want to. Learning is more strenuous than guru worship.
Vertical. I can imagine that there'll be more hate, because I know that Sonntag already gets a lot of things wrong. But if you do it right, the horses will give up their backs very well. And they'll also take the weight on their hind legs very well!
Ah, you had "omitted" the warming up, that's how it works, of course.
But, may I ask a stupid question, what is "our riding style" that represents this handwork?
Gehört zu unserer Reitweise dazu, kurz warm führen, dann mobilisieren, dann drauf. Natürlich entspanntes, ruhiges, langsames mobilisieren, kein schnelles.
Gegurtet wird nach Bedarf, im Laufe der Jahre sieht man am Sattelgurt dann schon, welche Löcher öfter verwendet worden sind.
Ansonsten habe ich einen groben Ablauf im Kopf, um nichts zu vergessen.
das mit dem misten geht niemanden was an.
das mit dem gurten kann fatal sein. kein pferd hat permanent den gleichen umfang.
Natürlich achte ich beim Gurten drauf, ob es zu fest ist, dann lass ich das Nachgurten das noch kommen würde natürlich weg oder lockere den Gurt wieder. Aber so im allgemeinen weiß ich immer nach was ich Gurten würde, wenn’s noch nötig ist.
Everyone has their own routines. But verbalizing them so concretely isn't something normal people do. For example, cleaning up after a specific routine is the most effective way to do it, the one that involves the fewest empty feet and still doesn't drag yourself to the Hugo.
I'm autistic, and yes, of course I have my own routines for how I get things done. But I don't list them; I just let the program run as it has proven most effective over the years.
At least when it comes to the preparations before going to the horse and the follow-up work that needs to be done after working with the horse.
Everything about the horse has to be adapted to the horse's mood and the current weather conditions. And, of course, to my personal mood as well. And yes, even as an autistic person, you can remain flexible in different situations.
Ja, teils automatisch, teils bewusst. Aber da redet man nicht drüber. Es klingt schon blöd, wenn jemand über sowas spricht. Wen sollte das denn interessieren? Wirkt kindisch, so ein Gespräch.
The PB at my RB once asked me why I always do everything the same, especially when mucking out… And then I somehow got the idea that it's just a quirk of mine.
To such a question, I would only reply irritably: "Yes, why not? There's nothing wrong with a healthy routine in this kind of work."
What does she want? For you to shovel left and right, or something? Or for you to play Tetris with the horse manure? I actually find a question like that much stranger than doing your work systematically. Then you don't have to think about anything and can't forget anything. My brain's capacity is reserved for other matters. 😉