Compulsory military service for women?
In Israel , women confidently accept their military service for their homeland! And that's a good thing. In Finland, service is voluntary. In many European countries, women's military service is mandatory. In Norway, a NATO member state, prescription for women has long been a matter of course.
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Why are women in Germany excluded from compulsory military service?
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I would be in favor of women also serving in the military. Or at least doing something for the benefit of society for a while. That's not too much to ask, and it doesn't harm anyone—quite the opposite. This could perhaps even inspire enthusiasm for a career in healthcare or nursing, which in turn could/would contribute to solving some of the problems we face in this country. But women should also be required to serve in the military.
A woman should not be treated separately.
What's wrong with YOU? Women are constantly the ones doing things for the good of society. They raise children, care for relatives, mostly work in healthcare, support men, do volunteer work, and because of this, they themselves are left with the short end of the stick financially and in terms of free time! How uneducated… Your answer is extremely misogynistic and spiteful.
Are you completely out of your mind or something?🤦🤦 You all talk about equal rights, and now you're complaining about them being uneducated. In 2024, women can decide for themselves what they do and don't do. Misogynistic 😂😂
I have no idea what you're interpreting here. I simply said that EVERYONE should do their part. Where did I claim that women don't contribute?
I don't mean to upset you, but when you say, "When I look at young women and how disrespectful they are, something like that would be good," you're completely ignoring a large group of people. Just because you've seen girls on the street who were disrespectful doesn't automatically mean that everyone is like that.
In summary, I'd say your anger is understandable; I'd be angry too. But not all girls are like that, and you have to accept that.
I don't care about you idiots either, don't worry. And thanks for blocking me, so at least others can still read it.
Woman = Incel?? What was that about uneducated…
I've already blocked him. He's just a pathetic man who thinks he's educated, and we're all just stupid for him. Honey, we won't let this idiot ruin our day 🙂 Let's make love, which he can never do as an incel 😀
Where did I write that men should go to war? Show me where. On the contrary, I write everywhere that I'm completely against prescription and constantly ask who wants to send their sons, fathers, brothers, etc. to war. Unlike you, who writes that women should at least do something for society for a while, haha. Let it go, it's pointless. You're just making things up.
But you have, here:
You don't get it. You write as if women don't even do something for society for a while, and THAT is outrageous. I wrote to you why: "…what women already contribute to society, even to their own detriment , is why they receive , on average, lower pensions than men, and women are more frequently affected by old-age poverty. What about "they could do something for society… they raise children, care for relatives, mostly work in care, support men, do voluntary work, and therefore have the short end of the stick financially and in terms of leisure time…"
If you still don't understand where your thinking is going wrong, that's your problem. If you have so little idea what women are capable of, you'd better hold back.
So, I'm fed up… As the saying goes… The wisest one gives in. 😉
So if men are sent to war, it's not a bad thing, but if women are, it is? Now, think about who here thinks negatively about the other sex.
I have no idea what women do in society… aha. And you can say that because how well do you know me? I'm a nurse myself, so before you make such comments, think about what you're saying. You know me well enough to accuse me of that? All right… 😅 I don't care what you're saying. I don't need to listen to that kind of nonsense from a stranger, and I certainly don't need to justify myself. Ridiculous…
And because of your derogatory, disrespectful opinion of all young women, whom you obviously lump together, you want them to go to war? What does one have to do with the other? You sound bitter, as if you've only had negative experiences with women. Interesting, it speaks volumes.
wrong recipient my dear
What I wrote was neither derogatory nor offensive. What YOU wrote, however, about being misogynistic and uneducated, is quite outrageous.
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And what does that have to do with anything? I never said that women don't contribute. I wonder where you're getting that from? I just think that if men are required to go for prescription at a certain age, it should apply to women too. What's your problem?! But arguing with someone so narrow-minded and primitive just doesn't make sense.
You only dare to tell me that in your anonymity. Then it's the equality they all demand. Besides, today's youth can handle it. When I look at young women and how disrespectful they are, something like that would be good. Then they could learn what respect means. You seem rather uneducated.
No, you don't. Read your own post again. Your second sentence alone shows that you have absolutely no idea what women are already contributing to society, even to their own detriment. That's why they receive lower pensions on average than men, and women are more often affected by old-age poverty. As for "they could do something for society, too." It seems you're the one with the problem. There's no point in discussing it further. Educate yourself first before spouting such nonsense.
Not anymore if prescription for women comes into effect. Even uneducated women.
Quite simply: because it is stated in the Basic Law.
Realistically, this will have to change.
Thank you. Good answer.
…that's exactly what I can't imagine at the moment – it would need to be preceded by a lengthy social debate. And then I agree with you!
But one thing is clear: subscription can only apply to none or to all genders.
Anything else is no longer acceptable these days.
That's anything but "clear." There are arguments for both ideas, and they should be discussed calmly. We have a subscription for boys. period. Anything else would require a change to the constitution. And I'm very much against doing something like that "in a hurry"!
That would be very expensive, as the current infrastructure isn't designed for both genders; all locations would have to be rebuilt. The equipment is also a problem. Not only will it be too heavy for an average woman—I certainly wouldn't trust myself to lug around 30 kg on a march, and with additional equipment, it can weigh up to 60 kg (in Switzerland), but the equipment itself isn't suitable for women, as it doesn't take breasts into account (it's said to chafe like crazy and be constricting). Additionally, the handling is unsuitable for many women. Therefore, a lot would have to be done to create realistic conditions for "average" women. But that would be a really good idea, because not everyone agrees with this approach either.
However, I think it makes more sense to require women to perform civilian service or volunteer for military service. This way, the structures can be gradually adapted.
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I don't understand what's so hard to understand about that!
Mr. Pistorius's ideas also include asking the girls about their interests. And he's actually hoping to find enough volunteers, including the girls.
If you want to oblige girls to serve, you'd have to change the constitution. But that's not possible at the moment, and given the current political situation, it's not even close to being possible!
Ergo, his plan is within the realm of "feasibility"—the alternative would be to do nothing at all, just because the girls can't force it! Would that be better?
I would be okay with compulsory military service for women if they were socially and financially equal to men. Not only in the federal government, but also in the private sector. That is, in jobs outside of the Bundeswehr.
Equal rights also mean equal obligations.
We're still a long way from that today. That's why I would strongly support voluntary participation. But not mandatory.
In Switzerland, women can serve voluntarily.
However, I would prefer mandatory military service for women and men alike, based on the Israeli model.
Today, there is no longer any reason why women should be excluded from military service. If they later have children, they can request exemption from military service if they are called up.
And if you don't want to serve in the armed forces, there's always the option of civilian service. People are also needed in the event of war or disaster.
To what extent, what can be done?
And what about men who don't want to take up arms and refuse military service? Can they do civilian service instead?
Yes, exactly. Today, men can serve in the civil defense instead. They can also be "forced" there if they are unfit for military service but fit for civilian service.
https://www.armee.ch/de/rekrutierung-civilschutz
I don't know the exact work involved. However, there are civil defense shelters everywhere in Switzerland, which, in the event of war or a disaster, need to be cleared out, beds set up, chemical toilets installed, and stocked with emergency supplies.
The maintenance and provision of these civil defense shelters is the responsibility of the civil defense.
Another addition to the nice explanation 🙂 In Switzerland, men who do not want or cannot do military service, such as my husband who is unfit because of asthma, do community service during their civilian service. You can also pay not to do either, but it is a hefty amount that you pay every month until you are 30. For example, you can work in the background in care, clearing out apartments if someone dies without any relatives or they are unable to support them. Other options include jobs such as sorting used clothing or computer courses for older people, which is what my boss's son did. You have to apply for civilian service jobs, or you are simply assigned to where help is needed.
There should be no prescription at all; nobody wants to fight for Ukraine.
How do your two statements fit together?
irony
And which of the two? A little more information, otherwise you can't do anything with it.
Either both or neither. I have better things to do than die in a war for politicians who have nothing to do with me.
Well, if there is no army, then in the event of war or disaster you can die without fighting…
How many children do you want to take both parents away from?
Very good legitimate question
They all want equal rights and quotas. So they always put women in the Bundeswehr.
Women have another very important role in society and therefore women should be able to make their own decisions.
Those days are over, women to the front.
Of course, in times of low birth rates, women should also go to fight so that even more foreigners can be brought in, right? INTERESTING
Men not or what lol
True. That's why I'm for absolutely no military conscription. Politicians are paid by taxpayers to create and maintain peace, not create a situation where prescription has to be reintroduced! Pistorius out.
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Completely naive and completely removed from reality:
As is well known, peace can only be created and maintained for one's state under the current global circumstances by being able to defend it with superior force when some megalomaniac such as Putin thinks he can launch campaigns of conquest and subjugation.
If you can't defend yourself enough, then peace will quickly be over.
And the best thing, as we all know, is to be so well-prepared in advance that any potential warmonger, such as Putin, is so deterred that he doesn't even try.
As current world history unfortunately proves quite horribly, this remains the only way to create, maintain and secure peace as long as there are such insane mass murderers and land robbers as Putin.
– and in our case, especially its completely war-mongering useful idiots such as the so-called "AfD", see eg https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/russland-leitungen-der-afd-putins-nuetzliche-idioten-a-64cfd8f3-2735-4047-857b-0249940ad8cb
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If men then take on all the other unpleasant things like having children, working in care, doing voluntary work, looking after relatives at home, and supporting women while they make money and have careers, then gladly.