Why such an aversion to students?
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I'm male and 30 years old. I graduated from high school and took a year off afterwards. I then began studying theology, philosophy, and religious education. I've also been studying piano since graduating.
To finance my studies, I work part-time during the holidays and also a few days during my studies if I can. I've already worked as a laborer in various skilled trades.
What I noticed is that in almost all of the jobs I've worked in, people had an aversion to students—not just to me but also to other students who worked there. And, as I said, this was the case at several companies.
At my current company, the tone is a bit louder and more direct. The workers, some of whom work 12-hour days, tell me that I don't understand the seriousness of life because I've never really worked before, and that I should finally start working instead of spending all my time studying.
Of course, I also want to work, but I also have to finish my studies. Working part-time will prolong my studies, as I also want to pursue a master's degree in these fields and perhaps a bachelor's degree in history.
What do you think? How should I respond to comments like this?
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You're studying them too much. 5 courses are mentioned and a time off. That doesn't know the working people. (Ouch) They look forward to an uncertain, rather gloomy future. And then there comes one who simply "just" makes a degree after another and doesn't seem to care very much. That's for the stranger of the world. And then there are more spiritual and creative courses. This doesn't fit the craft, for example. 😄 Completely different bubble.
It doesn't matter how and whether you look at it. You just walk your way and listen to a feedback.
But it is also interesting how you become a 30-year-old multi-student as an old pensioner in 5 months.
I did this as a "studier" and "Akademikertrottel" (the name cursed) in a simple working environment, where I was constantly explained by "Helden der Arbeit" and where I generally had a low reputation – on the one hand they have envyed me more or less from the side because of my then Mercedes C-Class and my accepting merit, on the other hand I was very welcome to them.
The joke is that I have not studied at all, but people have accepted this on the basis of my profession and appearance and have self-employed. If I had told them the opposite, they would have accused me of lying, even if I had shown my testimony. They are so – they are always in the right and if, for example, a "student" shows them that they are not in the right time, this is a great humiliation for bumbling regular brothers who are used to specify the tone in a way that is not exactly cimperial.
I was considered the "Akademikertrottel" who was too stupid for the factory and agriculture, but then the grace learned to get a very well-doped position. According to the motto: if it was clear that he was too stupid for field work, then he gets something to compensate for it because otherwise he has nothing to offer :-/
In this milieu, a man is only a man when he works in crafts or in agriculture, gives the tone, has learned the tonefall at the tribal table, "from Schaffhausen is" and works hard, etc. – an office job is not right for a man, Abitur should not have it either, because then he is considered "what better" or one who wants to be better". That also affects girls. My former friend was told that she was retrieving Abi after the Middle Ages, and was a teacher instead of "like all the girls" butcher or bakery salesman, educator or nurse. Even her mother was harassed on an open street, and even for "good neighbors" was considered arrogant one time, because the daughter was striving for the Abitur and the usual way "not good enough" was according to Reading of the environment.
I've been wondering what all of them have against me, why they are so unfriendly to me, scattering rumors about me, telling injustices, being a must, scary even to my then friend, and why they are always interested in finding mistakes with me. My uncle at the time told me that these people feel indirectly humiliated when someone like me enters their lives because someone would show them what they do not have.
I was done so that I doubted me and went to the psychologist who then told me it wasn't about me and I wasn't sick – it was the environment. I can say today that he was right because I moved away about a year after that and since then belong to such problems of the past. Where I live now, educational background, income, car and the like play no role at all, although I have risen professionally. I have never experienced envy, congratulations and shared joy. When I was promoted in 2023 and it became public, I even congratulated people I didn't expect. In my home country, I would have been insulted. For me, every professional success was a kind of pseudo-success that was not assessed and went indirectly towards humiliation.
Only after I learned that one of my friends – high-ranking police officers or First police commissioner – just like a friend who became a law-career and a friend who called "Ing. grad." suffered the same way. Especially, despite his position, the police got Tinder, where it was only going and was even anxious about the choice of his private car, because it wasn't a Mercedes – well noticed, other people were mistaken when they drove Mercedes or BMW or Opel Omega.
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Otherwise, students are sometimes very superb and arrogant, superficially predisposed and are not in vain in the reputation of only making party and "traveling". I'm getting this about my cousin who's still studying, and I don't think that's too welcome. Not everyone is like that, but those who give themselves so materialistic, turn to the whole nation and make them bad.
I read you superbly!
I found the story great until I read that you have a cop as a friend.
What do we learn from it?
Everyone lives a little in his bladder and that has reasons. No one should stop, just because anyone thinks they have to judge you.
I hate cops! So what? Do your thing 🙂
It is regrettable that you experience this kind of dislike. It often results from different life realities and experiences. Many people in crafts have the feeling that work is more physically strenuous and practical compared to studying, and they consider studying as less tangible or directly “usual” in daily life. In addition, it can also be a form of frustration if someone has the feeling that someone else does not know the “real life” because it focuses on theoretical topics.
In such situations it is important to remain calm and respectful. For example, you could answer: “I understand that it requires a lot of hard work, but my studies are just as important for me to achieve something in the long term. I work hard to finance my studies and take it as seriously as work here.” In this way you show understanding, but also that you appreciate and respect the importance of your studies.
You don't have to justify or defend yourself, but it can help to promote respectful communication so that these barriers are broken down. :
This is often due to reciprocity. Students who work physically only as an emergency or transition solution on the way to "hearer" are, as is known, also no rarity.
Have you ever thought that many of your "respectless colleagues" pay more for the KiTacare of their little ones than you do for your studies?
Frustration is just pre-programmed…
A study is not a work in the sense. Surely it may be that you're trying. But physical work is something else! You can't compare it with each other. You may never work properly – I'll take it. There's a big difference.
You chose this way, so it shouldn't take care of what people say. The dislike against students, even in craft businesses, comes from the fact that students, as theorists, now do not work physically. You usually earn more than the workers. To this end, one has to say that most students have to do with those workers, are archtic students and when they are finished are architects and just the freshly baked lay there sometimes a quite superb sound on ddn day. Not all, but a whole lot. It is possible for them to do everything, but the craftsmen must do it. Architects do not have to do internships on construction sites for free. I understand both sides. Finally, students also have to take times of deprivation. Besides, I think there's always something envy. If someone says something in the direction, I always say, do it. But then a thousand excuses come again why not. I think everyone does what he does because he wants. Otherwise there are no reasons for this, so be satisfied or change it.
If you can – stay calm – do not answer anything, but it will probably be designed to be superb.
Most people feel uncomfortable and believe they could be less than students, so they lift their work more valuable.
I know the problem, I've lived through it myself. Since I came from a workers' household, conversations were only possible and correct.
Good luck and good luck for you.
?? In your first post, you were still a pensioner who rented apartments.??
That's exactly what I'm trying to do. The logic in the succinct statement: "You didn't understand life," reveals immature envy immediately, as well as their reduced logic and differentiation capability!
"You can only work because wise people have invented the tool you need for your work.
You would never have been able to invent this technology…"
That's true.
But theology, philosophy and religious education are not suitable for contributing to technology.
True, these things only deal with the issues and questions that humanity cannot answer since the beginning of its existence. After thousands of years.
Simplest understandable questions that cannot be answered, although in the meantime aircraft, computers and many other technologies have been invented.
… thus the most complex and most challenging field in the whole spectrum of human existence.
So important and filled with a profoundness that most people are unable to recognize this circumstance at all and therefore like to resign.