We descended from apes (misconception)?

Where does the misconception that the EV theory says we descended from apes come from?

It simply states that humans and apes had the same ancestor, who lived about 6-8 million years ago and was also a primate, which then split over time into different species of the family "Hominidae".

Due to geographical factors, natural selection and adaptation, mutations, etc., we now have various primates, including apes and humans.

Why is this so rarely understood by many people, especially religious people?

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ThomasJNewton
8 months ago

Not humans and apes, but humans and chimpanzees had the last common ancestor 5-8 million years ago.

Even when it comes to the simple distinction between chimpanzees specifically and tens or hundreds of ape species in general, most people fail miserably when it comes to our ancestry. Most don't even give the impression of being religiously deluded.

The most common answer is that humans and apes (merely) have common ancestors, which is of course complete nonsense, just like "chickens and birds only have common ancestors".
It may be a lazy compromise solution that won't offend anyone, but of course it's not the right one either.

Man is an ape, that is the only sensitive answer, but it is often accompanied by much contradiction.

Tasha
6 months ago
Reply to  ThomasJNewton

We say this about the common ancestor because otherwise some people would think that we descended from recent apes.

Osterkarnigel
8 months ago

It is a widespread misconception that the theory of evolutionary states that humans descended from apes. This simplistic view often leads to misunderstandings and is often seized upon by critics to cast the theory in a false light.

Why this misconception is so persistent:

  • Simplification: Evolution is a complex process that takes place over millions of years. To make it understandable, it is often presented in simplified terms. However, the core of the theory can easily be lost in the process.
  • Religious beliefs: For many people, the theory of evolution contradicts their religious beliefs, which often assume divine creation.
  • Misconceptions about "ape": The term "ape" is often used very broadly and encompasses a wide variety of species. Evolutionary theory doesn't say that we descended from modern-day apes, but rather from a common ancestor who was an ancestor to both us and modern-day apes.
  • Media and pop culture: The media and pop culture often present simplified and sometimes false representations of evolution.

The correct representation:

  • Common ancestor: Humans and apes share a common ancestor that lived approximately 6-8 million years ago. This ancestor was a primate that diverged into different species over time.
  • Evolutionary adaptation: Through natural selection and adaptation to different environmental conditions, various species have evolved from this common ancestor, including modern humans and the various ape species.
  • Not a linear process: Evolution is not a linear process in which one species "evolves" into another. Rather, it is a branching process in which different species evolve in parallel and change over time.

Why is it important to understand this difference?

  • Scientific accuracy: It is important to present the theory of evolution accurately to enable a better understanding of biodiversity and the history of life on Earth.
  • Refuting pseudoscience: The accurate representation of evolution helps to refute pseudoscientific claims and promote critical thinking.
  • Respect for other living beings: The realization that we share a common origin with other living beings can lead to greater respect for nature and all living beings.

Why don't many people understand this?

  • Complexity: Evolution is a complex topic that requires a lot of expertise.
  • Emotional barriers: For many people, the idea that humans are a product of evolution is difficult to accept because it may challenge related religious or philosophical beliefs.
  • Lack of education: A lack of scientific education can lead people to fail to understand or misinterpret the theory of evolution.

Conclusion:

The theory of evolution is one of the most well-supported theories in science. It is important to present it accurately and avoid misconceptions. By recognizing the similarities between humans and other primates, we can develop a deeper understanding of our own history and our place in nature.

segler1968
8 months ago
Reply to  Osterkarnigel

Please be so kind and write if you use ChatGPT. And in most cases, you should leave it here, because it's your own thoughts. We can all copy and paste.

Osterkarnigel
8 months ago
Reply to  segler1968

Why is it about your own thoughts? It's about answering the question. The answer is meaningful, comprehensive, and answers the question.

Also, it's not ChatGPT, ChatGPT builds its response blocks differently and structures them differently.

And yes, we can all do it. We can all Google it, too. Yet every day, thousands of people ask questions about things that can be Googled in two seconds.

Skys888
8 months ago
Reply to  segler1968

xDD I was just about to write the exact same thing. Even the first paragraph sounds like GPT

ThomasJNewton
8 months ago
Reply to  Osterkarnigel

Incorrect.

Humans and apes have a common ancestor who lived about 6-8 million years ago.

The chimpanzee is not the monkey.

Text passages and links should be checked before posting and omitted entirely if you are unable to check them.

This is how you spread untruths.

Osterkarnigel
8 months ago

You can see it that way, but that doesn't make it true.

Furthermore, the answer would not prevent anyone from interacting and discussing the answer.

segler1968
8 months ago

Because this is a social network. It's about people and their interactions. Not about asking a chatbot.

Osterkarnigel
8 months ago

The purpose of the forum is to earn money 😉

And in a broader sense, it's about ensuring that people who ask questions get helpful answers. I don't see why it matters where the meaningful answers come from.

segler1968
8 months ago

Oh dear, then another LLM. The point here is that PERSONAL contributions are written. Simply referring to Google or Wikipedia isn't the point of this format.

Skys888
8 months ago

The first paragraph still sounds like GPT ^^

Osterkarnigel
8 months ago

😀 cool that you are such an expert 😉 but it is not ChatGpt, its answers and its structure are completely different

naaman
8 months ago

Very easy.

Evolution attempts to explain the descent of humans from animals by pointing out that there are many similarities between animals, especially apes, and humans. This is also very plausible.

Evolution, however, has a problem when it also has to acknowledge differences. This, of course, is not something evolutionists pursue or address further.

Since the result is already certain for evolutionists, their theory only needs to be optimized accordingly.

A few bones are found somewhere, and within a short period of time, a complete prehistoric human can be reconstructed. Even the fur color, eye color, and whether the toenails were already painted.

Example of the Pildown Man fraud. So, fraud in evolution as well.

The police and the identification service want 'experts'.

314156926
8 months ago
Reply to  naaman

Quite a lot of opinion for so little knowledge

Grauerwolf245
8 months ago

Hello, I think that you can see it very clearly in some cases, and many people are behaving really stupidly!

matmatmat
8 months ago

Where does the misconception that the EV theory says we descended from apes come from?

We do. You write it yourself in your question. Even if you want to sound clever and write "primate" here, but what kind of animals are primates?

The only problem with this is that people (intentionally?) misunderstand that this species of ape is one of those found today (like gorillas).

CenturyisGone
8 months ago

One could now imagine that many people have remained genetically very close to apes.

Apokalipstic605
8 months ago

Humans (Homo sapiens, Latin for "understanding, intelligent" or "wise, clever, smart, reasonable human being") are, according to biological systematics, a species of the genus Homo from the family of great apes, which belongs to the order of primates and thus to the higher mammals.

Conclusion: We ARE monkeys

Matermace
8 months ago

Absolutely correct. But you'll probably be contradicted right away.

latricolore, UserMod Light

Well, wrong thought…
But simple thinking is also expressed in simple language.

This is what it looks like, without many words:

segler1968
8 months ago

This isn't a misconception. We belong to the suborder of apes within the order of primates, as do the common ancestors we share with other apes today.

So humans ARE apes. And apes have existed for about 45 million years.

Aeroplanus
8 months ago

Because people with low levels of education cannot or do not want to differentiate.

eieiei2
2 months ago

Because they don't want to understand.

DeathTheKid42
8 months ago

Yes, apes and humans have the same ancestor, which was also a species of ape.

verreisterNutzer
8 months ago
Reply to  DeathTheKid42

No, that was an early primate, not an ape.

segler1968
8 months ago

Yes, that was already an ape. Just as we are apes. Apes have existed for 45 million years.

indiachinacook
8 months ago

It simply states that humans and apes had the same ancestors

And this ancestor was itself an ape (but did not belong to any living species).

verreisterNutzer
8 months ago
Reply to  indiachinacook

Technically, it was n't an ape, no. It was just an early primate.

And what's so unthinkable about the idea that we descended from such an early primate? Because it didn't look like us, but more like a modern ape? Well, a living being evolves and thus changes its appearance, and in some cases, like ours, its cognitive abilities as well.

indiachinacook
8 months ago

Are you claiming that the word "ape" only applies to species living today? Then Gigantopithecus wasn't an ape either, and by the principle of equality, the mammoth shouldn't have been an elephant, and the moa shouldn't have been a bird.

segler1968
8 months ago

Technically, it was a monkey. Just like we are monkeys—since all primates are monkeys.

DerHans
8 months ago

Your error in thinking is that hominids and pongids (ape-like) descended from COMMON ancestors.

This is now NOT a theory, but PROVEN by fossils

verreisterNutzer
8 months ago
Reply to  DerHans

Thanks for the correction. Biology is and never has been my area.