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fraesee
9 years ago

My first car was a B Corsa with 45 hp. It was perfectly adequate. Insurance was cheap, and if something breaks, you can pay for it. You also have to keep in mind that the bigger the car, the more expensive the insurance and spare parts usually are.

fuji415
9 years ago

For new drivers there should be an automatic ban on insurance etc. so that new drivers are never allowed to drive with more than 60 HP and as soon as the power goes above that they have to lose their license for two years and then get a new one with stricter conditions.

And that doesn't even include an accident, and there's a ban of at least four years for speeders like that, which have a lot of horsepower but no idea how to drive. They're speeding time bombs who are responsible for multiple deaths because they can't handle the vehicle.

I once had to see how an 18-year-old incompetent raced through the city and then missed a roundabout and totaled three cars because he was allowed to drive his dad's car with 130 hp.

Luckily, he's only in a wheelchair now; he could have been dead. He had to be cut out of the car.

The fact that class B is also a tiered driving license is changed depending on the horsepower and vehicle size, and anyone who doesn't stick to it will lose their license.

header2000
6 years ago
Reply to  fuji415

So, according to your statement, a car should only be used to get from A to B and not, for example, to tow a 2-ton vehicle? I can imagine that this task would be quite difficult for a 60 hp engine.

A PS ban is idiotic if you really think about it.

Furthermore, the 'driving skills' and accidents of one individual shouldn't punish innocent, good novice drivers. You wouldn't take your dog away if your neighbor's dog mauls a small child (purely hypothetical, of course).

The way insurance companies do it is correct. They say, "You want a car with lots of horsepower, a high fun factor, and a high accident rate? Then you'll have to pay for it!" Surely you know that.

boeji10
5 years ago
Reply to  fuji415

"Luckily he only uses a wheelchair now"

You disgusting, reprehensible commenter. You've never messed up with your boys? Oh, too bad you're not in a wheelchair. Seriously, and someone like you calls themselves a community expert. Disgusting.

Nqliqx
4 years ago
Reply to  fuji415

But your suggestions are utter garbage. A limited amount of horsepower for beginners? I think you're living on the moon.

Hausi06
9 years ago

A beginner's car is a car that has little horsepower, preferably a car with an engine up to 1.2 and a small

Remember, every car will eat the hair off your head.

As a new driver, they can charge you up to 250% of your insurance premium, and that really depends on your car: large or small, sporty or sedan, large engine or small engine, even the brand.

Of course it's up to you what kind of car you get, whether it's an Opel Corsa B 1.0 12V or a BMW 530i, you're the driver. But bear in mind, as long as you're a beginner, the slightest carelessness can have disastrous consequences. For example, you have an accident, your insurance bill goes up even further, your probationary period is extended and the repairs to your own car will eat you up. If you have a big car, you can go to a scrapyard or look online and order a spare part for a small price, but for the big ones it's a completely different story.

It's better to drive a bowl, you'll learn more than if you drive a proletarian car.

CarosPferd
9 years ago

If you only want to spend 5,000-5,500, look for a used one, preferably from a local dealer. However, I recommend getting one with less horsepower, but a younger model with less mileage, and in better condition.

Or you could wait and save up some more (I'd do that now), and then you'll have a better selection. Also consider running costs, fuel, insurance, spare parts if something breaks, etc. (For example, if you go to BMW for something, it's already more expensive than if you go to Renault, Nissan, etc.). Also consider whether you can cover these costs.

kenibora
9 years ago

As an 18-year-old student who also smokes, how much money do you have available to buy a car and how much for monthly maintenance, taxes and insurance, fuel costs, repairs, wear and tear, etc.?

Othetaler
9 years ago

A good used car (small car) from a reputable dealer or perhaps a well-maintained pensioner's car.

And make sure you get a cheap and affordable insurance rating. So probably (well) under 100 hp.

M3akrapovic
9 years ago

Suzuki swift sport 125 hp 2007-08 consumption 8 l urban

ArduinoMega
9 years ago

The new Astra or Golf

Fragenmensch98
9 years ago
Reply to  Vinc420

VW Golf 7 is really cool

RefaUlm
9 years ago
Reply to  Vinc420

So if you like the… "design"… of a Golf 7, get one…

But if you want something sporty, get a BMW 3 Series or something Japanese. The main thing is rear-wheel or all-wheel drive. Everything else is nonsense when it comes to driving pleasure…

Fragenmensch98
9 years ago

Has 105hp engine

dekoheyer
9 years ago

If you want something compact then I recommend a VW Golf 4/5 Variant.
Or something smaller, like an Opel Corsa, but even an old Audi A3 is something for a novice driver.

Best regards and a safe journey.

SpitfireMKIIFan
9 years ago

Anyone who only wants at least 100 hp for their first car needs to go back to driving school!

lady62
9 years ago

Sorry, but don't you think that 100 hp is a bit too much for a novice driver?

RefaUlm
9 years ago
Reply to  lady62

Why? My first car had just under 130 hp and weighed less than 1.3 tons… It's something to do with realistic assessment and GMV, and then nothing happens ๐Ÿ˜Ž

EP2fan
9 years ago

Start with 50 hp. There are plenty of novice drivers who overestimate themselves and can't control their oh-so-powerful cars.

EP2fan
9 years ago
Reply to  Vinc420

Overtaking and crashing your car into a lamppost is no mean feat. You have to be able to flow safely in traffic.

Hausi06
9 years ago

Or wannabe Schumachers with their 200 hp cars. But read the road traffic regulations more carefully. According to ยง 3, it's illegal to drive faster than 50. But look closely at the people standing at traffic lights; it's usually the people who have big cars and then play around with their phones or their big navigation systems. They think "I'm a big car, awesome BMW, I have the right of way," or "I don't care about the road traffic regulations."

And that happened to me on the highway, too. It's dirty windows, but whatever. Unless you build your own highway and can drive on it alone, you have to pay attention to others. Being an annoyed driver doesn't do you any good except potentially make mistakes.

All I want to say is, no matter whether it's a big or small car, a low-horsepower car or a high-horsepower car, everyone makes mistakes, not just one group.

And no, I'm not one of those people who have a small car.

But the topic was what to get for a beginner's car, and not how stupid drivers are ๐Ÿ˜€

RefaUlm
9 years ago

That's right, everyone has to follow the road traffic regulations! That means I drive within a built-up area as posted and permitted, and not 30 km/h in a 50 km/h zone. I signal when turning somewhere. I check my rearview and side mirrors several times, and I check my shoulder before attempting to overtake on the highway. I make sure I start off quickly at traffic lights to allow the vehicles behind me to also pass while the light is green. I shift down at least one gear before overtaking so I can complete it quickly…

All of these are points that are often overlooked by drivers of small cars or older people…

Hausi06
9 years ago

Sorry, that's a generalization that isn't entirely true. It's a subjective opinion, not an objective one. You're assuming that anyone with a powerful vehicle automatically has the right of way. But that's not true; everyone has to obey the road traffic regulations.

RefaUlm
9 years ago

In theory, I agree with you, but in practice, unfortunately, it's a different story! How often do I suddenly see some Sunday drivers in their small cars on the highway, overtaking a truck doing 80 at 85 km/h without really checking their rearview mirrors or maybe even downshifting so their cars can at least get moving! In the city, it's either older people or drivers of small cars with tiny engines who take forever to get going at a traffic light. It's the same on country roads… They drive at 100 km/h or consistently drive on the left at 120 km/h on the highway, or in the middle at 100 km/h instead of lining up with the trucks as they should…

Hausi06
9 years ago

What a stupid statement, even people who drive a Golf GTi can be a traffic hazard if the driver can't drive, that has nothing to do with the horsepower, if you have a weak car then you just drive in the right lane on the motorway.

RefaUlm
9 years ago

With less than 100 hp, you're more of a traffic hazard than truly keeping up with the flow of traffic, especially on country roads and the highway…

So, so little horsepower can be more dangerous than about 100…

hoizscheitl
9 years ago

So my first car had 150hp and if you handle it sensibly it's not too much even for a novice driver, I think you can get an acceptable Golf for that money

hoizscheitl
9 years ago
Reply to  hoizscheitl

Bmw118d must correct me it has 143 hp, is really a super car but from 2008-2010 there are problems with the timing chain and the models from 2010 are outside your budget

RefaUlm
9 years ago

Brand and body shape don't matter at all?

As your first car, you don't need anything big or something for 5,000…

My tip: buy a used small or compact car for $2,000 that's just had a fresh MOT. Drive it and save the money for the car you'll buy next. Every dent, ding, and scratch will hurt you more on a $5,000 car than on a small, inexpensive starter car that costs around $2…

RefaUlm
9 years ago
Reply to  Vinc420

Take a BMW 3 Series…

Geisterstunde
9 years ago

Sorry, but: a beginner's car doesn't need 100 horsepower. As a beginner, you can't handle that.

hoizscheitl
9 years ago
Reply to  Geisterstunde

Well, you can't say that, my first car had 150 hp and never had any problems with it, it always depends on how you handle it

RefaUlm
9 years ago
Reply to  hoizscheitl

My first car had 130 hp and weighed less than 1.3 tons. I was able to handle it very well. In over 15,000 kilometers, I never had an accident or a dangerous situation where it was close… And I only drove my car for leisure. I don't need it for work like my new one does, but that one already has 200 hp and weighs 1.2 tons. ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜Ž

fraesee
9 years ago

How much money do you have?

fraesee
9 years ago
Reply to  Vinc420

A slightly older Audi A3 or BMW 1 Series. Check out mobile.

Fragenmensch98
9 years ago
Reply to  Vinc420

Oh then a used Golf 4 or 5 maybe or installment payment