What is your opinion on the development of families?
Would you agree with the thesis –
"Families don't do as much together anymore because most of them work, so children are used to being in daycare/kindergartens from an early age, or the elderly in a nursing home. The family bond is weakened."
What do you think about it? What are your experiences?
Do you spend a lot of time with your immediate families (parents, grandparents) or maybe even with your aunts, cousins…
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To answer your question, YES, a large family (multiple generations under one roof) has advantages and offers security, but not in Germany, because many things have been lost here and everyone relies solely on the state or beliefs that others have to take care of them (redistribution, anti-welfare state). Unfortunately, this dependence on the government, no matter which one, is intentional in order to manipulate the stupid "voting cattle" that keeps them in power.
Very interesting. Thank you, I agree. I think if you have a family and a strong bond, you should make an effort to integrate it into your everyday life as best you can.
👴🏼 Thanks for the sisters.
I think the thesis is wrong.
Families now do more together than in previous times.
In the past, there was no 40-hour week and most people worked much longer.
In 1900, a 10-hour day with a six-day week was legally enshrined. This meant that people worked 60 hours a week. Before that, a 12-hour day was not unusual, even for children, as there was a lot of child labor at the time.
Today, families have much more time for each other and do more things together.
When the weather is nice, the playgrounds are full of children and their parents.
The high divorce rates and the fact that only one parent worked at that time spoke a different language.
It is also reasonable to assume that family used to be a social balance to one's responsibilities, although today balance is often understood in a different way.
When father or mother passed on their craft to their children, they spent a lot of time together; this hardly happens anymore today.
Every family is and has always been different, but the tendency for family bonds to weaken seems clear when one looks into this topic.
When did only one parent have to work? My grandmother, great-grandmother, great-great-grandmother, and the women in my family before they always worked. I have no idea what province you're from.
Fortunately, today no child is forced to learn their mom's and dad's job, but can fulfill their own dreams. Families and children have never had it better than today.
The low divorce rates suggest that many women were unable to separate from their husbands. They remained in unhappy and violent marriages because they had to.
At that time, both parents and children usually worked.
In the past, career choices were indeed very limited. If both mother and father worked in a factory, then all children were highly likely to work in a factory as well. Girls might be able to find work as maids, but that was also a 12-hour day.
I agree with you there.
I am asking you to do this because, for example, in the case of a difficult time in the marriage, cognitive dissonance can occur, which can be expressed, for example, in the fact that one partner feels that they are only going to argue because of a difference of opinion.
This situation cannot be compared to years of violent arguments in front of children and domestic violence.
In this case, the generalization of both cases by an acquaintance could, in the worst case, lead to the destruction of a loving family. The acquaintance might feel validated by this and not even realize what part he/she played in it.
A marriage with violence is definitely more negative than a divorce!
Children do not experience positive bonding if they constantly witness violent arguments between their parents.
I would urge you to be extremely cautious about generalizing that divorce is good because women were oppressed in the past. This is no longer just about men who don't feel like men without violence, if that used to be the norm. It's also about some women who commit violence against their families because otherwise they don't feel like women.
The consequences of divorce are not only in exceptional cases, but also include suicide, homelessness, depression, loneliness, lifelong repression of injuries or shifting of guilt, etc., or understandably profound life-changing changes that are strikingly similar to the symptoms of, for example, war crimes.
The realization that you are a human being just like everyone else, that you make similar mistakes, that you have strengths and weaknesses, comes in my opinion from positive bonding experiences throughout your life, and a divorce is a negative bonding experience for everyone involved.
Just my experience & opinion🤷🏼♂️
Even if I can't think of a better way right now: I don't want to scare anyone, but I want to point out that families are increasingly threatened at the moment for various reasons 😬
I think families are important!
Too bad, what's the reason?
The past is a significant part of humanity, but no, I'm all about progress. Family – yes! Even the challenges😍
No, it is not understandable.
I think you're romanticizing the past and the topic of family.
I also think it's good that people don't have to stay in violent family situations, that child labor is banned, etc. – there's no question that this is clear progress.
Unfortunately, the sad reality is that many families without violence are now being divorced frivolously. This legitimizes psychological abuse against one's own children (since, in the best case scenario, they only suffer for two years), possibly against the former partner, and all sympathetic family members, not to mention the often contentious divorces that resemble a spiral of violence. At the same time, violent relationships continue to persist.
I have the feeling that the generalization about the supposedly many unhappy marriages of the past is being used as an excuse. An excuse, among other things, to avoid facing one's own responsibility, to avoid admitting one's own mistakes, to instigate others, and sometimes even to inflict psychological violence.
In my opinion, this is a clear sign and a reason why family bonds have weakened and why hidden violence continues to exist within families.
I know the wonderful feeling you convey in your answer! Nevertheless, I believe Marinax's thesis is correct, at least for the reasons just mentioned. Is that understandable?
Sorry, but after the fourth insult from you, I no longer have any need.
I reported two of them. GF responded quickly.👍🏻
You can generalize, assume, and idealize as much as you like. That doesn't mean it's true, but it says something about you. 🤷🏼♂️
Is my thought evil? Everything that defines a family doesn't increase the gross national product. That's why both parents have to work, send the children to daycare, and put the grandparents in a nursing home, because that increases the gross national product…
I don't think it's bad, but sad
it has always been the case that both parents had to work
Crèches, daycare centers and schools where it is normal not to see each other after a certain period of time could be a reason.
If you ask me, the main reason is a society characterized by a lack of appreciation, which imagines itself to be more valuable than others. This is reflected in families.
The position of the family is sometimes overrated, or considered by some to be an almost sacred necessity.
These conservative values made sense and were justified in past times, but in today's society, other interpersonal communities can also serve this purpose.
And that is exactly what family should not be: A "community of convenience"
Family is also a community of convenience, but one without the freedom to decide whether to belong to it.
It serves many purposes, such as learning so-called social skills.
I can understand your argument, as many families solve their problems dysfunctionally. One reason for this could well be the daycare centers, nurseries, and schools where it's normal for people to stop seeing each other after a certain amount of time .
In the past, families were closer and did not separate so easily
People have never had as much time for each other as they do today, and they've never been as well off as they are today. So your theory is nonsense.
In addition, we are fortunate to have a very low infant mortality rate today.
What do you base your generalized assumption on?
If family security is a basic psychological need, this would be one reason for the high rates of depression. These rates also contradict the idea that "we" are doing so well.
Because in many cases both parents work, at least one parent has less time for the children. Added to that are the many distractions and demands.