New chat control in Germany, unbelievable?

Is this DDR 2.0, the total surveillance of citizens under the guise of child protection? It's unbelievable what these people are coming up with to monitor us. Does this mean that encrypted messengers are now useless? What do you think? https://www.msn.com/de-de/nachrichten/other/chatkontrolle-faeser-sets-sich-durch/ar-AA1a18h2?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c4c484afbdfa41568235e069fc2531d2&ei=32#comments?

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Traveller5712
1 year ago

Was to be expected… the state organs have long been afraid of losing the connection in the new country and can always rely on the knowledge and wisdom of the NSA.

The so-called "source TKÜ" – ie the communication monitoring on the terminal, with which one bypasses the leakage, because one directly captures the screen contents and the keyboard inputs, has long been on the desired list of the authorities.

And no… GDR 2.0 certainly not – but much worse. Even George Orwell could not have turned out to be more terrible in the coming full surveillance.

Oponn
1 year ago

You should read the article before you roam. Germany is opposed to surveillance and excludes it.

anTTraXX
1 year ago
Reply to  Oponn

He's got it forty times, with the lixed article, psosteg

Zortah123
1 year ago
Reply to  Oponn

But whether Germany will prevail against the EU?

Oponn
1 year ago
Reply to  Zortah123

Yeah.

Bones007
1 year ago

So please.

As an East German, I am insulting to say that the EU or Germany is the GDR 2.0.

You should read the article and then inform yourself about the GDR.

Dolphin1989
1 year ago

Be careless, there will always be them: private messengers. If you previously used WhatsApp or any other messenger from the USA or Germany, your messages were not 100% private.

But yes, politics has no idea of ​​technologies or digitality. This is why students at school are simply set before iPads without understanding how things work. This is Germany – there are digital media devil witnesses.

HarterArbeiter7
1 year ago

What GDR 2.0?! Total surveillance was not necessary.

By the way, you want to prevent crime. So if you might have private pictures and another person you're bad luck. If you have nothing to hide as already mentioned, you have nothing to fear.

Oponn
1 year ago

What was Stasi's job again if not surveillance?

HarterArbeiter7
1 year ago
Reply to  Oponn

That's not as stupid as many Wessis think.

Dolphin1989
1 year ago

Oh, please. I'm happy that the GDR is over. Once you said on the marketplace with a megaphone in Leipzig, according to "Honecker was a fucking head of state", you would have landed directly in the farm. And the sentence "who doesn't have to hide has nothing to fear" – then get out. Where were you last shopping? What did you buy? How much money did you spend? What is your favorite TV series? How many times a month do you refuel? Where are you working?

Oponn
1 year ago

What do they think of monitoring?

HarterArbeiter7
1 year ago

That life in the German Democratic Republic was not as good as it was. There were limitations but they think much more critical

Oponn
1 year ago

What do we think?

anTTraXX
1 year ago

You are

You read the article or you just want to make a lump mood against nothing.

CliffBaxter
1 year ago

Orwell's 1984 becomes reality

Oponn
1 year ago
Reply to  CliffBaxter

Nope

CliffBaxter
1 year ago
Reply to  Oponn

you are already

CliffBaxter
1 year ago

and

Oponn
1 year ago

Yes

priesterlein
1 year ago

I'm saying you haven't learned to read in school yet.

MichaelK89
1 year ago

Who has nothing to hide has nothing to fear.

Dolphin1989
1 year ago
Reply to  MichaelK89

Like I hate this sentence and people who mean him seriously too.

Kris, UserMod Light
1 year ago
Reply to  MichaelK89

And whoever searches, he finds. So whoever is looking for everyone will also find everyone.

Felideas347
1 year ago
Reply to  MichaelK89

It just jumped a little bit.

I'll give you the right as far as current law is concerned. Tomorrow someone comes and decides a law with which you don't conform and Zack are you criminal because you wrote something somewhere that someone doesn't find good.

MichaelK89
1 year ago
Reply to  Felideas347

So rather hold back and not write to openly critical things that could eventually become a problem 👍

Oponn
1 year ago
Reply to  MichaelK89

But I have something to hide. Why can the state ignore this?

Midgardian
1 year ago
Reply to  MichaelK89

But I have something to hide – as probably almost everyone.

Zortah123
1 year ago
Reply to  MichaelK89

I'd really be interested in who writes this all….

Felideas347
1 year ago

I think that's a mistake. This would eventually develop a dictatorship or autocracy, because they already know what is good for the citizens.

But it is exactly different, as citizens, we have to ask what we want and the currents we do not want to show that it is not the way we want to go as a society.

I would generally be in favor of more citizen participation in the state and legislation. We can re-determine every four years who does not represent us as we imagine. Because in the election campaign A tell and then make B or even worse C or nothing at all. To some extent, I understand the disastrous politics of many in D.

MichaelK89
1 year ago

The state has to ensure that we can live with each other in certain guidelines.

That's right. But when society is roaring and the climate is more uncomfortable, the guide planks must be tightened.

Felideas347
1 year ago

I don't think so, but even if it were the right of the state to monitor my private life?

then he could arrest us all directly preventively, because nothing happens to us and we don't do anything to anyone.

The state has to ensure that we can live with each other in certain guidelines. One part of this is prevention. Monitoring of citizens is used for most part to find and suppress other opinions, rarely to prevent them. Therefore, in D it is not so easy to listen to citizens, etc.

MichaelK89
1 year ago

If everyone would do that, there would be less crime in private households.

Felideas347
1 year ago

No, I don't think so, but that's why I don't think it's a good thing to control systems.

do you want to have cameras installed at home from bka as prevention? You could hit your partner or kick out metan 🤔