Neighbors reserve parking spaces – what can I do?

Hello everyone,

First, some context: My husband and I live in a very central area on the main road, completely surrounded by residential buildings and no-parking signs. To say that there is a lack of parking spaces here is a complete understatement. This makes it all the more annoying that some neighbors are behaving completely inappropriately by reserving parking spaces with their cars for weeks on end. Several people have already spoken to them, but they have shown no understanding. The public order office can't or won't do anything about it, because parking spaces are reserved with vehicles, not objects. This means they drive out with one vehicle and immediately park with another. As a result, they have now reserved 7(!!!) of the 11 parking spaces on the street for themselves. 2 of these were added a few weeks ago, when the owners parked one car in the middle of a parking space that could hold 2 cars, and then either swapped spaces with the other car or parked the second one behind them. I spoke to them about it a few days ago, but there was no sign of understanding. (Quote: "Just call the police, they won't do anything anyway. We'll keep doing it like this. The others reserve some too, so we'll do it too." I'm seething with rage! It's so selfish. There's no way the owners (a young couple) have realized that there are old, sick, disabled, and even pregnant people living in the area.

Now that I've vented a bit, let's get to the actual question:

Is there really nothing I can do?

According to Section 12, Paragraph 6 of the German Road Traffic Act (StVO), parking should be done in a space-saving manner and, as a rule, stopping should be mandatory. There are no markings in the parking spaces, but there's clearly enough room for two cars. A €10 fine is possible, but €10 won't stop anyone, will it? Or should I really call every time they're parked there until they stop, since the tickets are piling up? Or maybe drop off notes in neighborhood mailboxes asking people to complain to the public order office; maybe then something will happen? It's probably bothering a lot of neighbors.

Thank you in advance for any help 🙂

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ProxiCent
1 year ago

The authorities can make nix.

The only point that could be attacked is the space-saving parking with 1 car at 2 vehicle lengths.

But this does not justify towing, but only a mini penalty with bad administrative burden.

In the long term, I don’t see a solution, except next time plan better and build a garage instead of just a house. Maybe the house can just sell there and build something new.

summersweden
1 year ago

Who are the parking spaces? The city or the landlord? Depending on what I’d call her there.

There is nothing else left for public parking than to contact the office again and again.

Anonym458748674
1 year ago

Join the other descendants (preferably by petition) and appeal to the landlord. What do you want the Order Office to do, except to issue a ticket of over 10 of yours every time?

Mooncrash
1 year ago

Public parking is not a landlord.

Egdur
1 year ago
Reply to  Mooncrash

Not quite, the merged person is obliged to provide a certain number of parking spaces per accommodation unit, i.e. 1.5 or 2 depending on the one.
So ask where the parking spaces are for the apartment can’t hurt.

GammaFoto
1 year ago

What do you want the Order Office to do, except to issue a ticket of over 10 of yours every time?

exploit further remedies and distribute points and driving bans if the behaviour does not change!

Mooncrash
1 year ago
Reply to  GammaFoto

What behavior? Do you need to use public parking and be faster than others? 👍

Egdur
1 year ago

So you can definitely book one for yourself. There comes a sign and if someone else parks there you can even pick up the money for it, up to 30Eur.

Egdur
1 year ago

(5) The necessary parking spaces or garages are to be produced
1. on the building plot,

2. on another plot at reasonable distance or

3.with the consent of the municipality on a plot in the municipality.
So if number is valid, you can book one.

GammaFoto
1 year ago

not space-saving to park and 2 parking spaces to occupy a second car from the calculus.
With videos you can even prove that the one car then makes extra space for the other, which is then even an intention and inappropriate use.

MAB98
1 year ago

If there are public parking spaces and the vehicles are registered/insured/TÜV, they may be unlimited in time.

You can’t fight.

Trouble, but your hands are bound.

Anni1337
1 year ago

Huhu,

if you complain more and more at the office of order, it is only a matter of time until here a great idea is found, for example, only time-limited parking between 9am and 5pm, parking only with local white etc., so all things that make the situation worse.

About Anna

GammaFoto
1 year ago

in principle, you can’t do anything about parking cars, after all, they’re just there…

But:

by placing the owners in a parking lot where 2 cars could park, by car in the middle

But you could go with the neighbors,

10€ fines are possible, but 10€ don’t stop anyone?

Well, if the 10€ will be due daily… But if there is a gradation, then there can even be a point in Flensburg or the entry of the driving licence at the end, because then a characteristic weakness can be found, which speaks against the suitability for participation in road traffic, if there is no change in behaviour despite repeated warning.

GammaFoto
1 year ago

it should be, yes.

If you also make videos in which you show that the car makes a different place, then the “reserve” is also occupied and therefore an attachment that the non-space-saving parking only has the reason to keep the place free for the other car. If this happens again and again, you can also get to the office again and then this should have much more rapid consequences. A note to the office with the file number from the previous link should also be a wink with the fence pile that the officials see that courts had judged accordingly and that there is a need for action

Basic documentation, e.g. several times a day the car that makes itself so wide should be photographed, and in addition both at the same location, you may need. The best way to write the time and date into the picture with a camera, otherwise a phone will also store the data on the picture with

schoschi06
1 year ago

That’s all you can do in public transport.

horribiledictu
1 year ago

it could always go out with these cars for inexperienced reasons…

GammaFoto
1 year ago
Reply to  sxnshxne

we will see that they will only do”

I would be very cautious, in the end the neighbors then still have (forbidden wise) any surveillance cameras or dashcams

Mooncrash
1 year ago

If it’s public parking, it’s so 🤷

I own have a fixed garage space 😎 Wouldn’t it be an option: What Fixes?

Anonymer1Alfred
1 year ago

Believe me, every day 10€ penalty doesn’t want to pay anyone.

Let’s see who gives up first.

Besides, what I’m asking, do you have no access, or garage to your house? That would be the first criterion for me to buy the house. Like the Simpsons.

Anonymer1Alfred
1 year ago
Reply to  sxnshxne

If you live so centrally, what do you need a car? After all, you live in an apartment, not in a house.

GammaFoto
1 year ago

then just take motorcycle or large-power scooter.

ah, and they fall from the sky or can you let them out of the chewing gum machines for 1€ or how?? And the driver’s license is free of charge or how?

sometimes I wonder real…

Anonymer1Alfred
1 year ago

Then take a motorcycle or a big-power scooter. They need much less space and can so annoy the car park thieves if you can use it between their cars.

GammaFoto
1 year ago

So what?
This can only come from an ignorant city man who never leaves his 200m well-being zone and doesn’t understand that you need a car if you don’t live in a metropolis, because you hardly come anywhere else! Have you ever tried to carry the weekly purchase from the supermarket 8km away on foot?????

Altersweise
1 year ago

Wrap the car in rain with toilet paper.

peterobm
1 year ago

wait until a parking space is empty, then quickly put his car there.

or continue to search

Mooncrash
1 year ago
Reply to  sxnshxne

Or even rent a fixed car park would also be an idea. 🤷

M0din06
1 year ago

Talk to several neighbors for the first time. The more you are, the more the Order Office or the police take the matter seriously.

And if nothing happens then, in my eyes only one more collage helps, which can be quite expensive…

MAB98
1 year ago
Reply to  M0din06

Collective action?

Hahaha

What are you complaining about?

Oh, man… what a legal understanding.

M0din06
1 year ago
Reply to  MAB98

Okay, sorry I didn’t study this shit and I didn’t have this problem until then.

Alopezie
4 months ago

How did you solve the problem?